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michele · 2009-06-29 23:14:43

I was reading this post http://www.safeaccessnow.org/punbb/view … hp?id=3314 and found out that Dr Jimenez has lost his CA License but that Dr Blake is taking over those patients and honoring their recommendations in San Diego, Ca.

Curious what he was doing for his Hawaii patients I attempted to check that web site - www.medicalmarijuanaofhawii.com - It is no longer active. When you click on the link for the "clinics" under the SD MMJ website here http://mmofsd.com/mmofsd_jimenez.php the hawaii web site is gone. The telephone number he used to use here in hawaii 888.215.herb is busy 24/7/365 - fair to say it is 'gone' too, apparently.

I have read that Dr Jimenez is now the ASA "medical advisor" - but as a patient of his here in Hawaii I am at a 100% loss as to what is going on for the Hawaii patients he has written recs for? I have gotten no notification by telephone, email, or postal service.

I was hoping maybe someone could explain the situation with Dr Jimenez and his Hawaii written recs?

I just want to be informed if there has been a change I am not aware of here locally. This web site http://mmofsd.com/mmofsd_jimenez.php spells out whats going on with his CA patients perfectly but is completely devoid of anything related to Hawaii patient status.

Very odd.

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michele · 2009-06-30 11:59:54

Hope someone can explain the situation before I have to start digging. Maybe Dr Jimenez could be kind enough to also add the information to his web site as to what is going on with his Hawaii patients.

I find it hard to believe I am the only person who is concerned if their Dr. Jimenez HAWAII rec is worthless now or not considering he has "hung up his stirups" after losing his CA license months ago.

It would have been really nice to have been informed from DR Jimenez or his employees directly rather than finding all communication links just "gone". Doesnt exactly instill the most confidence when it looks like someone is avoiding communications by dis-connecting every form of contact listed on his 'card'.

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michele · 2009-07-01 13:29:03

Since Dr Jimenez is now the ASA medical advisor perhaps the folks who placed him in that position would be kind enough to let him know there are questions.

I get the feeling folks might have thought this was the wrong way to approach this issue.

I am interested as how other HAWAII patients of Dr Jimenez intend to get answers considering every line of communication has been severed with no info as to what the hell is going on.

Like I should be so thankful he gave me a rec, that I am totally out of line to be simply asking what THE HELL is going on since Dr Jimenez dropped off the face of the earth in reguards to HAWAII patients but spelled out perfectly what he was doing with his CA patients.

This is a bunch of bullshit.

I guess what I consider a professional courtesy to current patients from the good Dr is out of line.

Apparently sending out a letter to each patient would just cost too much money so just severing all communication is best and leaving each patient to deal with the aftermath and any legal issues since thir rec may or may not be valid.

Guess hes out at the mall buying new guccii shoes and too busy to bother with being a health care provider.

Living Green · 2009-07-01 17:18:08

Michele,

He has a new website http://www.drjimenez.org but it's not completed yet.. However his Ewa Beach clinic page is up and running with the contact info you wanted.

http://www.ewabeachclinic.com

I did check the HI professions database and he license is "STATUS: CURRENT, VALID & IN GOOD STANDING"
http://pvl.ehawaii.gov/pvlsearch/app

I hope this helps ease your concerns.

Best,
Living Green

michele · 2009-07-02 12:51:28

I appreciate your information that Dr Jimenez has simply changed the name/email/telephone & is still working out of the same office.

It doesnt change the fact he disconnected every form of communication I had for him as my physician, and was just "who knows where". When I began to search where he might be (on the internet!!) I find out he has lost his CA license and "hung up his stir-ups"....

I keep going back to the same place. Why would a local Dr with many patients - disconnect every form of communication and leave not a single bread crumb as to what is going on with them? To instill confidence?

The fact he has a hawaii office and license might matter if him or his staff actually returned telephone calls.

Call his new office and leave a message to return your phone call. You might be surprised at the complete lack of a responce from him or his staff. Or maybe not. A late return call would be fine, but how about NO call back? Lets just say there has been ample time to return the call and my phone is silent.

At some point the fact he has a valid hawaii license is not as front and center because his service and communication skills are less than desireable leaving everything else quite questionable. Seems the easiest of tasks is alot to ask from Dr jimenez. Truth be told this has not always been the case but the past doesnt mean much today.

I mean if Dr Jimenez is dissatisfied with the money he is making @ $175.00 a pop - stop taking our money and do something else. Dont give me zero service after taking my money.

RC · 2009-07-07 05:19:22

Dr. Jimenez is not on island right now, he will be back in the Ewa Beach clinic the 21st through the 23rd.

The Hawaii website is down right now and is being worked on, but it does not have anything to do with California. A couple months ago Dr. Jimenez sold his practices over in California to Dr. Blake, and is in the process of moving back to Hawaii permanently shortly.

As for Dr. Jimenez's California license revocation, it is being appealed and he will go to court in September to get his license back. This has nothing to do with his Hawaii license, and if anything were to happen here in Hawaii, emergency arrangements have already been made to insure that the Hawaii patients recommendations are not in jeopardy if an unscrupulous investigator attempts to commit perjury in an investigation to prevent Dr. Jimenez from registering any more patients as they are trying to do in California.

Any time one doctor personally writes over 12,000 recommendations as Dr. Jimenez has, the "powers that be" will do whatever they can to put an end to it, even by lying if they have to.

Dr. Jimenez's Hawaii patients have nothing to worry about, his Ewa Beach office is not closing, and he will soon be living here and have the office open more frequently so that he can see even more patients.

medpotcrisis · 2009-07-23 08:51:46

Michele - you're right to be concerned about "Dr" Jimenez, and also to question his appointment as a "Medical Advisor" to ASA. While the California Osteopathic Medical Board does not make their rulings accessible on the web like the regular Medical Board does, they are public documents and are available for a small fee for the copies and postage. I've obtained the Jimenez ruling and have scanned and posted it online here:

http://medpotcrisis.com/Jimenez-DOBoard-Highlights.pdf

EDIT: Here's a link to a compressed version (16MB) of the Jimenez ruling PDF - extra bonus, the text is searchable: http://medpotcrisis.com/JimenezRuling.pdf

please forgive my highlights and markups on the document - though you may find them useful.

RC: the "powers that be" don't mind it if Doctors write that many recommendations - or even more - they simply want the Doctors that are doing these recommendations to uphold their part of the bargain... that they uphold the (very basic) standards of care and guidelines when recommending medical marijuana to their patients... and that they treat Medical Marijuana just as they would any other medical treatment. Is that too much to ask?

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michele · 2009-07-23 13:09:32

medpotcrisis,

Thank you for posting that link and info! I clicked on the link but didnt see anything? I am VERY interested to read what it says. Feel free to click on my username and Email the document directly to me. I would SO MUCH appreciate it!

As my luck would have it - my wife is a licensed physician here in Hawaii also! She has her medical license in multiple states. I inquired with her as to what is the general process - if and when Dr Jimemez (or ANY DR for that matter) does in fact LOSE their appeal, and their license to practice medicine is revoked? My question was as follows -

Would DR Jimenez still be able to continue to practice medicine and hold a Hawaii license althought his Ca license was revoked?

Her answer was quite clear. If he loses his Ca lic. appeal, and therefore his license to practice medicine in CA, the chances of him holding a "clear and valid license" in ANY state is "SLIM to NONE". A DR doesnt get the opportunity to simply move from one state where their license was revoked to another state and get a valid license there. Since he has a HAWAII and California license simultaneously, the revocation of one, will ultimately VOID the other. Apparently USA DRs dont get "50 chances" to practice medicine because there is "50 states". You lose your license to practice medicine in one state, you lose it in ALL states you have a license with.

If he wins his CA appeal, no problem then. BUT If he loses the CA appeal - and is revoked in California, he will in fact lose his Hawaii license also was the "take home message".

Since I havent read the CA complaint yet, I have no idea what he is accused of doing, or not doing.

I felt pretty crappy about posting this topic - but after chasing DR Jimenez around and NOBODY giving me ANY answers - he left me with absolutely no alternative but to post the dirt and ask the hard questions no other Hawaii patients seems to want to touch on - OR they ARE simply UNAWARE OF the situaltion altogether.

I am bummed if DR Jimenez got screwed in CA, but in the end, I am a PAYING PATIENT/CUSTOMER (NOT HIS BUDDY, & NOT HIS FRIEND). I expect a certain level of SERVICE and COMMUNICATION as his patient. I understand he is essentially "in limbo" until his CA appeal is resolved, but that doesnt have a damb thing to do with the fact I NEED to be able to contact and carry on a dialog with my physician, NOW - NOT at his convienience, or when he is damb good and ready to make a effort!

Many WEEKS (months at this point) have passed since I have attempted to make contact with NO follow through from DR Jimenez or his staff.

As much as I understand this is a difficult time for DR Jimenez, his behavior (or lack there of) is just totally unacceptable and I am left pretty pissed off about the whole very un-professional situation.

He needs to have NOTHING LESS THAN GREAT communication to current, paying patients UNTIL such time as his HI license is in fact revoked, simple as that - PERIOD.

The whole "vanishing act" really pissed me off. Then when I wanted to inquire as to what was the issue was, I was dodged, leaving my mind to wander to the worst possible senario. Why else would he avoid HIS patients?

The whole thing sucks from A-Z. At least his CA patients havent been left in the DARK.

medpotcrisis · 2009-07-23 13:13:23

Hi I do apologize - the PDF file is a whopping 20MB, so it will load if you let it - or just right-click on the link to the pdf file (on the medpotcrisis.com website) and choose, "save file as" or something similar to that.

Again I do apologize for the sheer size of the file itself...

And thank you for the information on medical licenses from state to state.

Just to be clear, Dr. Jimenez has already had his CA Medical license suspended and revoked (it was effective in April... so it's been a while, even). They did not even put him on probation! (even the do-it-yourself-ers get probation if they promise to go to all the good doctor classes and all the hand-holding and such...). As there is no official word anywhere of any "appeal" the simple fact of the matter is that his California license is NOT in limbo... it's gone. Until anyone hears anything from the CA Osteopathic Medical Board indicating otherwise, that's the truth.

EDIT: Here's a link to a compressed version (16MB) of the Jimenez ruling PDF - extra bonus, the text is searchable: http://medpotcrisis.com/JimenezRuling.pdf

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michele · 2009-07-23 13:40:15

medpotcrisis -

Ah hah! I do have a slow computer connection so I will give it the time needed to download. Thanks again.

michele · 2009-07-23 15:17:08

I personally do not trust law enforcement especially since for over a decade now they have been trying to undermine the whole MMJ movement so blatantly.

However, it is with deep regret I must admit that after reading the posted license revocation document in its entirety that DR J did not do his job and it is quite obvious why no option for probation was offered.

When you get down to the meat of the matter it seems dr Jimenez was most interested in money FIRST;

Getting his paperwork to appear "proper" SECOND;

With patient care/concern coming in by long and far - LAST - if it was a fleeting concern at all.

It couldnt be ANY CLEAR that had dr j done his job with each and every patient he would have NEVER been in this position. I wish I could say the undercover guys made things up, but by not doing a proper physical exam, and not verifying medical records/conditions, and leading the questions & answers he lost his license and his ability to help patients who are 100% legitimate in the future.

I feel if he trully felt for this movement and it wasnt just for $ he would have never conducted himself in the manner in which he did.

The fact there are SO many discrepencies and he still declines to admit to running a less than through program or feel any remorse shows me he is pissed off he got caught, not of the position he was railroaded by lies of dishonest, undercover, detectives.

I mean he screwed up 3 sperate times with 3 seperate agents. Had he done things to the letter they would have had NO CASE.

DR J handed them his license by the way he conducted his business for profit and not out of the concern of patients who are trully in need of alternative medicine.

michele · 2009-07-24 14:10:40

Considering SOMEBODY (HUUMMM... I WONDER WHO?!??!?!?!?!?) removed the link so EVERYONE could READ what DR Jimenez DID to LOSE his LICENSE that was posted YESTERDAY it is quite obvious SOMEBODY is TRYING to BURY the facts as they are.

So to WHOEVER removed the link SHAME on you! Maybe later today when I have more time I will post what the link showed - it in its ENTIRETY!

If my attempt to display this PUBLIC information is removed YOU can be CERTAIN 100% as to exactly WTF is going on here.

First ALFONSO JIMENEZ was hiding from his HAWAII patients, BUT now SOMEONE at ASA seems to think HIDING the PUBLIC RECORD as to ALFONSO JIMENEZ license revokation case thinks by deleting links and HIDING the facts it will just "GO AWAY"....

That ISNT going to happen.

If you have a problem with the TRUTH and therefore your appointment of ALFONSO JIMENEZ as the new "ASA medical advisor" I suggest you reconsider him and his SELF proclaimed, ficticious status, as a "Qualified medical marijuana examiner" (a self appointed status that DOESNT exist, and that is a FACT)

michele · 2009-07-24 14:15:58

I will no longer refer to the man formerly known as DR JIMENEZ.

His name is ALFONSO JIMENEZ and he holds no title that can be reguarded as DR any longer.

Maybe we can begin working with facts now as they are and not DELETE FACTS so people can form their OWN opinion as to the FACTS.

Hiding and deleting links to FACTS is pretty cheesy to whoever the person is who thinks by deleting links it changes WHO he is, and WHAT HE DID> YES? YES.

Makana · 2009-07-27 22:00:59

Is the only subject under consideration on this forum one Dr. or Mr. J? Are there really so few MM licensed physicians in Hawaii (Oahu no less) that you can't go to another doctor? Is there a listing of physicians licensed to write prescriptions/recommendations available anywhere? Does anyone know of a doctor on Kauai that can/will do it? I'm a caregiver whose patient's GP supports the use of MM but she doesn't know of a physician on Kauai to refer us to.

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